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korang tau tak pasal hydroplaning??
aku tau lama dah pasal hydroplaning ni..
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baru je aku tau tadik lepas aku check kat internet..
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aku tak tau dan aku malas nak search kat internet.. baca komen2 kat topik ni aje laa.. he he..
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Post Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:53 pm Post: #1  - Post subject: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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topik saje2..

ape yang korang tau pasal hydroplaning??
cepat pi study..

penting untuk keselamatan nyawa korang nih..
sapa idop?
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Post Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Post: #2  - Post subject: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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ha ha ha..
ada gak yang vote "aku tak tau dan aku malas nak search kat internet.. baca komen2 kat topik ni aje laa.. he he.."..

tapi sayang nyer takde sape2 nak komen,
atau bertanya lebey lanjut lagi..

nanti2 aar aku sambung lagi..

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Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:45 pm Post: #3  - Post subject: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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bang besi...

sepaham sayer la yerk.. hideropelening ni situasi bilamana tayar lalu kt lopak berair dn tayar td x dpt bersekedudukan dgn surface jalan..

soklan sy la.. mcmana nk tau jenis bunga tayar yg paling seswai utk situasi mcm ni


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:07 am Post: #4  - Post subject: Re: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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soalan..
aku suka..

ha ha ha..

abeabe wrote:
bang besi...

sepaham sayer la yerk.. hideropelening ni situasi bilamana tayar lalu kt lopak berair dn tayar td x dpt bersekedudukan dgn surface jalan..

soklan sy la.. mcmana nk tau jenis bunga tayar yg paling seswai utk situasi mcm ni


yeyyey


tak kira camne jenis tayar bunga pon,
bila tayar tu dah tak leh "potong" air,
hydroplaning tetap bule berlaku..

so, setakat ni takde lagi tayar yang memang bule elak hydroplaning ni..

yang penting, skill2 bila berdepan ngan situasi..
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Post Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:11 am Post: #5  - Post subject: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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abeabe wrote:
tayar lalu kt lopak berair


tayar je la lalu... ketenyer xkot.. haha... lopak mesti la berair... lopak xberair org panggil pot hole kot...

abeabe wrote:
tayar td x dpt bersekedudukan


ni lg lawak... kang kene tangkap basah!!! huahauahua...

ok ok... gurau je... explaination yg hampir tepat... yg ak nk mengutarakan pendapat adalah dlm hal ni...

abeabe wrote:
mcmana nk tau jenis bunga tayar yg paling seswai utk situasi mcm ni


actually, xde jenis bunga tayar yg boleh greatly improve hydroplanning bg ak... die hanye improve skit je... ape yg penting adalah ko punye awareness cmne kete ko handle dlm wet condition... different cars will have different configuration thus having different wet condition driving dynamics...

utk part bunga tayar, ak rs most tyre yg ade dlm malaysia ni da optimized tuk wet condition... tgk pada iklan tu la, mcm2 tayar ade... tp yg mane bgs, ak xtau.... yg penting adalah bunga tayar dari jenis yg boleh kuarkan air dari bahagian tgh tayar ke bahagian tepi tayar dgn pantas... so, contact surface yg dibahagian tgh xterjejas maka improve la handling dlm wet condition... cmne bentuk nyer, xtau la den... xpandai bab2 ni... nk research pon xreti..

bg kete2 yg bertayar lebar, xperlu la nk lari laju2 kerana risiko anda mengalami serious hydroplanning tu tinggi... setkt nk buat 360 turn tu selambe je... especially bg kete2 yg ringan, tp tayar lebar... so, bg kete2 yg ringan tu utk best wet handling pakai tayar kecik2 suda... xyah lebar2... kalo ikot hukum fizik, pressure is inversely proportional to contact surface area... makin besar contact surface area kat tayar tu, makin kecik la pressure utk menembusi air maka hydroplanning la anda sepuas2nya...

kalo kete yg berat2 tu, xksh sgt sbb force die da tinggi... but still, bile terlampau lebar of kos la dtg mslhnyer... huahuahau...

setkt yg aku tau dgn Proton Gen2, tayar bersaiz 195 da ckp bagus tuk wet and dry driving...

tp kalo da anda lari selaju formula1 walaupun dlm jln basah, xyah ckp la pasal bunga tayar maupon tayar.... pk amalan tu da ckp ke belom je suda...
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Post Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:26 am Post: #6  - Post subject: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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ok.. noted..


cuba try citer details sket bout skill dan handling plak...
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Post Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:21 am Post: #7  - Post subject: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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cuba try citer details sket bout skill dan handling plak...

this is depends on the situation... ak selalunyer bile drive dlm hujan, mata ak melilau cari lopak air, ngan tgk cermin tuk survey distance kete belakang ngan kete aku... xnk r tibe2 kang ak brek die pg cium kete ak lak... satu keje lak nk g merepot la hape benda sume tu...

sbb ak melilau cari lopak air adalah nk mengagak apekah kete ak bakal berlaku hydroplaning nih, sng ak nk react... biasanya, kalo berlaku ak hanya biarkan kete ak utk pegi straight tanpa membrek... xtau la teknik ak ni salah ke betol tp so far kete ak mostly under control dgn cara ni... since hydroplanning nih selalunya xberlaku dgn 4 tayar lose grip, maka kete boleh steer dgn sendiri bile2 masa... maka dgn silap cara turn sedikit pon boleh menyebabkan 360 turn atau kete memanjat divider lalu memanjat tiang lampu... that's why ak lebih suke membiarkan kete ak pergi terus straight... just control die skit2 je xnk bg over kalo2 ade unwanted steer berlaku... again, of course kalo under full formula 1 speed xyah nk pk nk control la... kalo go straight ko akn terbabas understeer, pusing stereng pon ko akn 360 turn oversteer...

part braking plk, setkt yg ak buat jgk ak lebih suke utk tidak membrek (or kalo keadaan memaksa brek skit2... well, kalo ade ABS xrisau sgt.. nk2 lagi ngan EBD kan... kalo ade traction control lg besttttttt....) this is because kalo braking tayar yg kurang grip akibat hydroplaning td leh terus lock dan lose all grip maka dgn grip yg xbalance boleh menyebabkan 360 turn lantas memanjat divider dan terus memanjat tiang lampu...

ni setkt ape yg buat dan belajar sendiri la based on hukum fizik and basic driving dynamics yg ak belajar dari simulation race driving...
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Post Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:29 am Post: #8  - Post subject: Re: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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ok.. noted..


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so, bila kene hydroplaning,
perlahankan kenderaan..
kawal steering tu..

senangkan??

tapi kalu dah memang driver tu jenis kalut,
takde jadi senang gak..
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Post Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:39 am Post: #9  - Post subject: Re: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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cuba try citer details sket bout skill dan handling plak...


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this is depends on the situation... ak selalunyer bile drive dlm hujan, mata ak melilau cari lopak air, ngan tgk cermin tuk survey distance kete belakang ngan kete aku... xnk r tibe2 kang ak brek die pg cium kete ak lak... satu keje lak nk g merepot la hape benda sume tu...

sbb ak melilau cari lopak air adalah nk mengagak apekah kete ak bakal berlaku hydroplaning nih, sng ak nk react... biasanya, kalo berlaku ak hanya biarkan kete ak utk pegi straight tanpa membrek... xtau la teknik ak ni salah ke betol tp so far kete ak mostly under control dgn cara ni... since hydroplanning nih selalunya xberlaku dgn 4 tayar lose grip, maka kete boleh steer dgn sendiri bile2 masa... maka dgn silap cara turn sedikit pon boleh menyebabkan 360 turn atau kete memanjat divider lalu memanjat tiang lampu... that's why ak lebih suke membiarkan kete ak pergi terus straight... just control die skit2 je xnk bg over kalo2 ade unwanted steer berlaku... again, of course kalo under full formula 1 speed xyah nk pk nk control la... kalo go straight ko akn terbabas understeer, pusing stereng pon ko akn 360 turn oversteer...

part braking plk, setkt yg ak buat jgk ak lebih suke utk tidak membrek (or kalo keadaan memaksa brek skit2... well, kalo ade ABS xrisau sgt.. nk2 lagi ngan EBD kan... kalo ade traction control lg besttttttt....) this is because kalo braking tayar yg kurang grip akibat hydroplaning td leh terus lock dan lose all grip maka dgn grip yg xbalance boleh menyebabkan 360 turn lantas memanjat divider dan terus memanjat tiang lampu...

ni setkt ape yg buat dan belajar sendiri la based on hukum fizik and basic driving dynamics yg ak belajar dari simulation race driving...


cerita yang detail..

kira cara nyer lebey kurang cam ko cerita gak aar..

tapi, sape soh ko tekan brek pulak??
time2 hydroplaning ni ko lepaskan accelerator (pedal minyak) tu dah ler..

kete dah gerak atas air..
cepat gak turun speed nyer..

tekan brek lagi aar bahaya..
drop gear pon bahaya..

lepas kan accelerator aje..
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Post Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:52 am Post: #10  - Post subject: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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tapi, sape soh ko tekan brek pulak??


kalo lepak kedai kopi mcm2 cite leh kuar bro... haha...

tp kalo ade kete depan membrek atau statik (trafik light contohnyer) xpe ke lepas accelerator je??? isk... xtau, setkt ni kalo agk2 xde gaye sempat berenti ak brek je... tp bkn slam... light foot pumping je... huahuahaua...

tp betol la kan bile hydroplaning cpt la kete turun speed... asal nk brek lagi??? tp wikipedia ckp, If braking is unavoidable, the driver should lightly pump the brakes until hydroplaning has stopped. seems to me pretty much like ABS action but light pumping instead of brek serapat mungkin... huahuahua...
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Post Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:25 am Post: #11  - Post subject: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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Post Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:00 pm Post: #12  - Post subject: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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Hydroplanning ni kesannya kurang pada kenderaan berat.. tapi klo dibawa lg laju..
kesan nyer lagi besar dr kenderaan kecil..

itu sbb kita selalu terima nasihat klo hujan jalan basah dan jalan licin..
actually jalan tu tak ler licin (melainkan btol2 licin ler)
Hydroplanning ni mmg bahaya aa.. perkara yg aku selalu ambil
perhatian waktu hujan mmg lopak kecil tu aa.. klo langgar
dlm speed yg agak laju confirm kereta steer..

apa pun paling selamat jangan bawa kereta laju2 waktu hujan..
senang nak elak kebarangkalian berlaku perkara yg tak diingini..
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Waa..bagus la korang ..time kaseh ler...

bukan xmau amik tau tapi perkataan 'hydroplanning' tu pun aku x penah dgr..ape lagi nak searching maksudnyer...
bahaya gak menda nie klu jadi...
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Post Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:08 pm Post: #14  - Post subject: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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okeh..
gud..
kene main lantun2 lak..
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okeh..
ada sape2 lagi nak tambah informasi??
tak yah malu2..



sambil2 tu aku akan teruskan misi keselamatan jalanraya aku..
korang check topik blind spot pulak..
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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:00 am Post: #15  - Post subject: RE: hydroplaning - [ View Single PostView Single Post ]
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err aku de satu soklan...
kalo sesebuah keter tu dilengkapi dgn Traction Control Sytem n Electronic Stability Control cmne lak???
berkesan 100% ke utk mengawal kenderaan time kena hydroplanning ni???
yela,kalo dh understeer n oversteer time hydropanning, system ni bleh fully mengatasi ke dr dilanggar/cium tiang lampu jalan???
rasenye bergantung pd skill memandu jugak kn... Apo Bikin..

n utk jenis drivetrain, 4wd ke, RWD n FWD...
mne yg rasenye, still bleh handle kenderaan tu time hydroplanning???
pd pendapat aku, 4wd or AWD rasenye lg safe n kebarangkalian nk berlaku hydroplanning mcm sukar je...yeke????
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