Thread: Is Malaysian crime rate up or down?

What do you think after you watch this video?

Originally Posted by Reylas

Is Malaysian crime rate up or down?

statistically

• in general, it is down
• location-base wise, most are down

but the fact is

• those figures are manipulated (kindly avoid elaborating into political issues ya .. huhu)

and ii ain't just because the number of crime is rising
but because those culprits are getting innovative

• they plan well
• they target certain areas
• and they target weaker victim

to my opinion
most fault have to go to the victim
except pedestrian who has fallen victim to snatch thieves and neck point robbery

because the other victims, they are not taking precautionary steps

• handbags in front of motorcycle
• valuable items place atop car seats
• walking alone at certain places

i mean .. if for an example
a lady exit her office so late at night
the best way is to get a guard to accompany her
or during her walk to her vehicle, she talks through the phone with somebody
if there is no coverage, she may need to prepare herself with a taser gun

PDRM mesti mencari jalan untuk mengurangkan ketakutan rakyat

kopi paste link :

There is a widespread perception that crime is a serious problem in Malaysia. How many murders were committed on average per day last year? Are we safe?

Based on international studies, Malaysia ranks low for most reported crimes compared with other Asians countries.

Malaysia fell from 19th to 20th for the safest country in the world in the 2012 Global Peace Index (GPI). Singapore is the 23rd safest place while Indonesia is 63rd and Thailand is 126th.

The GPI rankings, for the 158 countries, cover indicators such as crime, terrorism, government, democracy and respect for human rights.

Criminal Investigation Department director Datuk Seri Mohd Bakri Zinin stated that there were only 511 murder cases last year, compared with 561 in 2010.

Based on the latest criminal homicide statistics released by the United Nations' Office on Crime and Drugs, the average homicide cases in Malaysia are 605 per year. Therefore, it translates to fewer than two homicide (1.3) cases per day.

In 1995, Malaysia (population 20 million then) had a murder rate of 395 people per year, or an average one person was murdered per day.

Therefore, the aggregate rates of homicide victimisation in Malaysia have not changed appreciably since 20 years ago.

If we examine the homicide incidents, Thailand is near the top of any list of countries for murder with firearms.

Thailand, whose population reaches 65 million this year, the rate of homicide cases is 3,307 per year, or 10 people are killed daily, while in Indonesia (population 237 million), there are 19,000 homicide cases yearly, with 57 being killed daily. On average, 35 Americans are murdered each day in United States.

The US has 313 million citizens while China (population 1.35 billion) has a murder rate of 37 people every day, or 13,400 per year.

The homicide rate in China is quite low compared with the US and this is maybe due to China imposing severe and strict penalty on homicide cases.

So, we can conclude that Malaysia is generally a safe country to travel and live in.

sumber : CRIME: Malaysia a safe place to live - Letters to the Editor - New Straits Times

If guys dare to admit to the camera that they are worried about crime, then crime must be rampant in Malaysia! Funny but true. Hahaha.

Compared to what you guys wrote, my comment is superficial. :)

I wouldn't blame the victims for crime though. While some may have not been so vigilant or observant, there's something really wrong when petty crimes become increasingly violent with some committed rather publicly in the daylight.

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Originally Posted by boking7

statistically
if there is no coverage, she may need to prepare herself with a taser gun

and make sure she doesn't taser herself by mistake.

Originally Posted by boking7

statistically

• in general, it is down
• location-base wise, most are down

but the fact is

• those figures are manipulated (kindly avoid elaborating into political issues ya .. huhu)

and ii ain't just because the number of crime is rising
but because those culprits are getting innovative

• they plan well
• they target certain areas
• and they target weaker victim

Mall car park robbery isn't exactly a well thought out plan. Hard to escape.

The problem is robbers feel like they can act with impunity. Tak takut. Only rakyat rasa takut.

And while clumsiness and negligence can be a factor on petty theft (like stealing handphone from tables), but still you can't really pin the blame on the victim, if perps come from behind and hit you with a bat before robbing you. You can't always depend on having escort and friends around all the time. And it's not like you can say no to your boss if you have to work late - which normally exposes you to walking at car parks alone at night when going home. etc.

Anyways, security and safety is a national concern. Communities are already pooling money to pay for security at their housing area. What else do we have to do to feel safe in our homes and country? Arrange neighborhood watches? Carry weapon to protect fellow citizens in case of crime? If we have to do all that - why don't we reduce the portion of taxes which is then budgeted into the security and police force, since we have to do the job of protecting ourselves now?

Isn't all this the job of mr policemen?

point taken but ..

Originally Posted by DougTheThug

Mall car park robbery isn't exactly a well thought out plan. Hard to escape.

nowadays .. yes
because most mall's have beefed up their security force .. at least thats what i think
and even certain outskirt malls have policeman patrolling it

Originally Posted by DougTheThug

The problem is robbers feel like they can act with impunity. Tak takut. Only rakyat rasa takut

well .. that's because the lock-ups and prison is their actual home
so they don't even bother entering it multiple time
plus they get shelter and free meals
that's what a few convicts told me

but citizens ain't suppose to feel scared
it depends on the people itself

i wouldn't be stupid enuf to go along a dark alley in the middle of the night in KL
but some do's ..

Originally Posted by DougTheThug

And while clumsiness and negligence can be a factor on petty theft (like stealing handphone from tables), but still you can't really pin the blame on the victim, if perps come from behind and hit you with a bat before robbing you. You can't always depend on having escort and friends around all the time. And it's not like you can say no to your boss if you have to work late - which normally exposes you to walking at car parks alone at night when going home. etc

yep .. that's true

my point of victim should take some blame is because
we are living in 2012 .. crimes happen everywhere, anywhere, anytime

KL is not like in the 70s anymore
where it is much safer compare to nowadays

even the culprits are getting smarter
though they look dumb sometime

Originally Posted by DougTheThug

Isn't all this the job of mr policemen?

rightly so

but i guess right now the ratio is not that good
plus all the big boys are using policemen for personal use
nak pergi mesyuarat pun escort .. depart early la. layan traffic jam like all others .. damn

Originally Posted by @boking7

to my opinion
most fault have to go to the victim
except pedestrian who has fallen victim to snatch thieves and neck point robbery

And that is why.. when women walks, they should walk the inside of the pedestrian road. Way inside, so that if there there were walls, they would touched the walls. Let the men walk on the middle or the out side of the road with his peacock chest, so that when the snatch thieves comes along they could brawl to one man standing. Who gives a crap about the men anyway? By the time they finished, the women already long gone, back home to take her nap.

Originally Posted by DrinkingWater

If guys dare to admit to the camera that they are worried about crime, then crime must be rampant in Malaysia! Funny but true. Hahaha.

Go to Columbia, take a camera and ask the people there if they got drug cartel problem. They will all gives the same answers, that there is no problem around there, even if there is a government officials sprawled dead riddled with bullets 10 feet away from them. So that must mean the crimes.. IS not rampant there. Funny..

Originally Posted by DougTheThug

ou can't always depend on having escort and friends around all the time. And it's not like you can say no to your boss if you have to work late - which normally exposes you to walking at car parks alone at night when going home. etc.

If you couldn't depend on family and friends, then who else you can? Pray to the God, that you would have a safe journey home. And is it really hard to tell someone to pick up you up? Possibly a big brother or your chiselled-figure fiancé? Or have a partner on the night job? What, she came to you when gossiping about salacious scandals and ask you to cover her spot during the day, now she couldn't help walk you home at night? What a douche..

Originally Posted by DougTheThug

Anyways, security and safety is a national concern. Communities are already pooling money to pay for security at their housing area. What else do we have to do to feel safe in our homes and country? Arrange neighborhood watches? Carry weapon to protect fellow citizens in case of crime? If we have to do all that - why don't we reduce the portion of taxes which is then budgeted into the security and police force, since we have to do the job of protecting ourselves now?

We did pool our money for security at our housing area. We even paid tax for it.
But did we taped a policeman giving us tickets and posted it in Youtube entitled police brutality? Yes, we did..
And thats why, the police patrol never patrol around our housing areas.... Any more.


In conclusion, accident could happened at any time unexpected. You could be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and it would be just cruel fate. There is no one to blame.
But crime could be prevented, by working together. Posting a video to blame another party or spread mass panic, is not exactly going to solve anything.
Only by working hand in hand, we can solve this problem.

By the way, what kind of a paranoid moron that would run away from a person shouting 'Excuse me' with a cameraman besides him?
You though that a TV crew would mugged you? He has an expensive camera with him.. You should've MUGGED him instead!
Hehehe

haha, it's funny to see the first couple ran away like that, but sadly its true that is what happened in our country today...

Originally Posted by Reylas

haha, it's funny to see the first couple ran away like that, but sadly its true that is what happened in our country today...

There are some funny bits in the video. Is the video a parody or real interview? I LOL-ed at the part where the guy says he needs to be protected too.

Wow, crime rate was so bad in Malaysia still!